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Grumble wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 7:21 am I don’t think people should sacrifice anything, unless you view things like changing to an EV from an ICE car a sacrifice - I would view it as an upgrade if anything. Selling a cleaner life as a life of sacrifice is deeply unappealing to people. Selling it as an improvement is where I’m at.

dyqik wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 3:34 pm

Grumble wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 7:21 am I don’t think people should sacrifice anything, unless you view things like changing to an EV from an ICE car a sacrifice - I would view it as an upgrade if anything. Selling a cleaner life as a life of sacrifice is deeply unappealing to people. Selling it as an improvement is where I’m at.

Split unit and forced air heat pumps are a big upgrade over a gas furnace/boiler - you get AC thrown in for free.

Electric scooters and bikes (electric and acoustic) are big upgrades over driving to work for a lot of people - faster through traffic, cheaper, allow some exercise, no cost to park.

Electric cars need much less maintenance.

Where roofs have lifetimes of decades (i.e. over here, where the average roof is guaranteed for 20-30 years), solar panels provide cheaper electricity and make the roof last longer.

Electric garden tools (mowers, strimmers, etc.) are lighter, quieter, cleaner, easier to use, and last longer.